Police Throwing Rocks Back

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Okay, these riots in Baltimore the last few days have been pretty crazy.  It really isn’t about the death of Freddy Gray.  That might have been the catalyst to start them, but this has been building for a while, everywhere.

Obviously, a bunch of people aren’t too happy with the Baltimore police after Freddy Gray ended up dead, with a broken back, after entering a police transport vehicle.  But these riots could be going on many places here in the US.  The anger is from the injustice pertaining to socioeconomic status and other huge issues relating to race.

The video footage of all riots are disturbing.  Everything about a riot is screwed up.  No one wins in a riot.  You can’t win a riot.  Everyone and everything loses.  Maybe the looters of CVS, who got a big arm full of diapers sort of won something, but in reality, in riots, everyone loses.

So, lets just take the cause and reasons out of this discussion.  And try to remove race too. This could be a riot after the World Series, or NCAA Basketball Finals, a rock concert, or for any number of reasons, in many different places.  Let’s try to look at this as any random riot and the police were trying to control the outcome.

This riot happened to be in Baltimore.  There are a bunch of videos out there that show police actually throwing rocks back at the protesters.  How stupid is that?  Police have to realize that nearly everything that they do, nowadays, is going to be captured on video.  They can’t do something as stupid as picking up rocks and hurling them back at the guys throwing them.

Here’s the deal.  Throwing rocks and bricks at police is really, really bad.  Someone could get killed.  But the police are there to try to establish order.  To stop the rock and brick throwing. Hopefully, by their presence, but if necessary, by arresting the guys doing it.

But there is never a case that it is okay for the police to actually participate in the rock throwing. They shouldn’t, and can’t get caught up in the escalation of the situation. This wasn’t a joust.  Or tit for tat.  It was a riot.   By them throwing rocks back, they are participating in that riot, not policing it.

Nothing guarantees that a rock that the cop throws is anywhere near accurate.  What if there is an innocent homeowner, standing in their yard, trying to protect their property and a rock, that left a police officers hand, wacks them on the head.  Who do they call?

The police are there to arrest people that are throwing rocks.  There isn’t another level of protection that can go up to the police officer and arrest them for escalating a riot by throwing rocks.

Like I said above, everyone loses in riots.  Property is destroyed, people are hurt and nothing gets figured out.  At least the police didn’t pull their guns out and start shooting.   But, I might understand that more than them picking up rocks and hurling them back.

Being a police officer is a job, a volunteer occupation.  The police can’t lower their, thus our, standards and fight back.  That isn’t their job.  They can’t let their emotions rage out of control and take the law into their own hands.  Their job is to defuse the situation.  By throwing rocks, they were escalating it.


A police officer throws an object at protestors.  (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

A police officer throws an object at protestors. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

Or a little May Day action in Seattle today?  This is on Capitol Hill.  Not the ghettos of Baltimore.  The one bike cop makes a pretty nice on the fly tackle off his bike.  Wonder what that guy did to piss them off?

55 thoughts on “Police Throwing Rocks Back

  1. euro

    Thee is new evidence that Grey might have had his back injury BEFORE he went into police custody. This dirtbag was arrested over a dozen times before this final run in. He got what he deserved. The police should have shot at the protesters, not thrown rocks back at them. If you can’t treat the police with respect, and run away from an officer, you deserve to be shot.

  2. Dan

    Family break down , too many young fatherless kids not willing to get an education plus good jobs are harder to find . Not looking good for the black youth in America. I hope things turn around

  3. Wildcat

    Wow! Check out that south-paw. Looks like he’s giving it all he’s got to throw that tiny rock. I bet that’s the most exercise that guy has had in years. Does he not understand that he’s essentially carrying around another human being worth of excess body fat? Makes me sick. And we’re all paying for his unhealthiness. Yes yes, and the riots are worthless. However, it’s okay because I heard on the radio the other day that America’s CEOs all recorded record pay raise percentages this last quarter. So that means that any day now some of that money’s going to trickle down to everyone! It’s gonna be great! Start planning that vacation!

  4. Hector

    There are black kids that come out of those same communities that go on to become doctors. I grew up in a town that was about 60% black. I would say 90% of them try to live like what they see/hear in rap videos. No one is forcing them to sell drugs, carry guns, smoke weed, sag there pants or pretty much just act like total fucking idiots altogether. They are constantly running into trouble with the law because they are forever fucking up. One of the best things I ever did was move the fuck away from that place. Bunch of fucking wild animals.

  5. Steve Tilford Post author

    Hector-We’re trying to not assign blame here. The riot did occur. Black kids, white kids, whoever, it doesn’t really matter. The point is that the people we pay to “police” this, didn’t act appropriately. They were lowering themselves to a street brawl. That isn’t any way to establish order.

  6. Dan

    I am no CEO and am far from being wealthy yet I somehow manage not to go around breaking the law. Care to guess what would happen if I did??? I would eventually have to face law enforcement! Guess what would happen if I fought with them?!?! Have you ever watched the TV show Cops? They are trained to be rather rough when restraining someone! I don’t want that so guess what! I’m not gonna do something STUPID to put myself in that situation! These dumbasses are not innocent victims!

  7. Andrew

    There is no evidence of this. This story has been found out to be totally false. Try following the news instead of websites that have a conservative/racist agenda. It’s really sad that the GOP has become the party of racists because we have a black president.

  8. Bill K

    Reminds me of the famous quote from 1968.

    “The police are not here to create disorder, they’re here to preserve disorder.

    Richard J. Daley

    Being “folded” while sitting can cause serious spinal injuries.
    Haven’t herd any results from an autopsy report, yet.

  9. Hector

    Steve, in response to your reply above. I get what you are saying but at the same time these officers are just human beings as well and are being placed in a really fucked up situation and to top it off they have pretty much had their hands tied behind their backs. Why are they even put there to begin with??? If they do anything besides stand there and block stones with their plastic shields then they are demonized! Those fuckers throwing rocks don’t want peace! They don’t want reasoning! They don’t want their voices to be heard! They just want to release violence! Do you know why they REALLY hate the police?!?! Because they can’t go around freely the breaking law! There is a reason that the majority of the prison population in America is black and it is NOT because whitey is unfairly targeting them. I have lived in and around that shit and have first hand knowledge of what really goes on. It’s a little ironic that the black citizens who over the law aren’t getting there backs broken by the police.

    I’m far from being racist! I just haven’t allowed myself to be brainwashed by all of the politically correct self imposed white guilt bullshit. I am Hispanic for what it’s worth.

  10. gabby

    That video is of the proverbial shit hitting the fan and the police were attempting some sort of tactical withdrawal while having rocks the size of baby heads lobbed at them. While I cant speak for what I would do in that situation, I can say that throwing rocks back may or may not be on that list. Most of those cops probably haven’t seen that type of overwhelming violence ever so insert panicked self defense rock throwing. While I agree with you steve that they shouldn’t be resorting to that level I think its some failure of the higher ups in the department to send them out there with purely defensive protection and nothing to repel what most would call an attack. I’d really hate to see what a mob like that would do if they got their hands on one of those officers. I have little faith in the humanity of a mob mentality.

  11. Andrew

    Hi Hector. Based on what you have written, I’d say you are racist. While you believe some blacks can do something with their lives, you feel 90% are no good rapper wannabes. You also referred to “them” as wild animals and your belief is that they just hate the police. Sorry bro, but just accept that you are a racist. I think it’s both hilarious and sad the number of time I’ve heard someone say, “I’m not a racist” while making racist comments. Just because you say you’re not doesn’t mean you are not. Secondly, your argument is holds no water. Do you know that there is a disproportionately large Hispanic population is US prisons? Using your reasoning, most Hispanics must be here illegally and must be part of MS13 and although some Hispanics might be able to do something with their life, most are here illegally and not paying taxes and won’t amount to anything. Do you think that is a fair statement or is it a racist statement? BTW the GOP are trying to pass a bill that would no longer grant citizenship to people born in this country. Any idea what part of the population they have in mind with this bill? Don’t be naive and blame an argument about race on being politically correct.

  12. Andrew

    What exactly have you said? That you agree with a bunch of racist statements and that you are Chinese? I don’t understand. Does being Chinese give you an exempt-from-racism card, so that you can go around and agree with a bunch of racist stereotypes?

  13. Skippy

    More Media Fodder that has gone WORLDWIDE ! Appearing on FranceTV 24 , RT , Sky TV and every other Major News Networks as well as US Network , the only thing missing was a ” Credit ” naming the individual LEO ? As if there was not enough ” Rioting ” elsewhere in the World ? Baltimore got more attention than the riots in Milano , Hong Kong & Elsewhere in Asia , celebrating May 1 Day !

    With US Cities appearing to have ” Para Military Equipment ” , it is a shame that Individual Law Enforcement Officers lower the Standards to which they were trained . Only Good that came out of this sorry affair was the Mother beating up on her Son , AND , the Bravery of the Mayor on the Bull Horn , telling the disenchanted to GO HOME !

    Problem now is HOW is Baltimore going to react when the 6 police Charged with Offences , walk FREE because the Jury decides to ignore Justice ?

  14. J.C.

    Yay – the Baltimore police respond to riots about (potential) police brutality with police brutality, throwing rocks. I am sure that is great at re-assuring the rioters they don’t have something to riot about and should go home.

  15. H Luce

    Gray had a crushed voicebox and his neck vertebrae were fractured, it’s the same kind of injury as seen in a lynching. And they effectively killed him when they picked him up by the shoulders – obviously unconscious, obviously limp – and his head moved backwards and forwards, that’s probably where his spinal cord was 80% severed. The proper protocol for moving people like that involves a board which goes from the back of the head down the back, sandbags, and duct tape, to immobilize the injury. Cops are trained in first aid, when someone goes down from a throat punch or an injury to neck or head, immobilization is done, that’s the protocol, until x-rays are done and evaluated by a doc to ensure no injury. What you see in the video is nothing less than negligent homicide after aggravated assault. See http://www.askthestreetfighter.com/combatmoves/strikeeffects/throat-strike-when-you-crush-the-windpipe.php

  16. Rod

    I’m sure Andrew would agree that we can solve all this if only we spent more money in our inner cities to educate these poor miscreants and that would take care of everything. Characterizing the GOP as racists is the typical Alinsky follower’s response to this. In fact every major playa in B-town is black and democratic, including Mayor, COP, and most of the police force and city council.

    Yet this is still somehow the GOP’s fault.

    Hear hear.

  17. TRUTH

    Can someone tell me what cell phone and liquor stores have to do with social injustice? Why are they always the target of these protests?

  18. H Luce

    To the posters above who advocate violent and lethal police action, that’s where the trouble is coming from:
    “The American Civil Liberties Union reported Wednesday that 109 people died after encounters with police in Maryland between 2010 and 2014. Nearly 70 percent of those who died during the encounters were black, and more than 40 percent of the people were unarmed, the ACLU of Maryland reported. The advocacy group found that blacks, who make up less than a third of the state population, were five times more likely to die from interactions with police than whites. The report comes amid national discussion of police tactics following the high-profile deaths last year of several unarmed black males at the hands of police officers. Maryland legislators are considering more than 10 bills related to police misconduct or brutality. Del. Curt Anderson, a Baltimore Democrat, said the report gives the proposals a needed boost. … Less than 2 percent of the officers involved in the 109 deaths were criminally charged, the ACLU reported. Police shootings accounted for 79 percent of the deaths. The group said it began its research after learning that the state did not keep track of the number of fatal police shootings, in-custody deaths or other deadly law enforcement interactions.” http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-aclu-police-deaths-20150318-story.html#page=1 Part of the problem is the police union: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/how-police-unions-keep-abusive-cops-on-the-street/383258/

  19. H Luce

    And the six officers involved have been charged with crimes including false arrest: “– State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby found probable cause to charge all six officers who had been suspended in connection with Freddie Gray’s death. The highest charge, second-degree depraved heart murder, went to the driver of the van, Officer Clarence.
    — The officers had no probable cause to arrest Gray, Mosby said.
    — A knife they found in his pants pocket was not a switchblade, as police previously said, and was legal under Maryland law, she said.
    — Mosby said an investigation found
    officers bound Gray’s wrists and ankles and left him stomach-down on the
    floor of a police van as they drove around West Baltimore.
    — Officers had at least five opportunities to call for medical attention. By the time they reached the Western District police station, he was not breathing and in cardiac arrest, she said.
    — Gray suffered a “severe and critical neck injury” as a result of being
    handcuffed, shackled and being unrestrained in the van, she said.
    — Five of the six officers involved in the Freddie Gray case are in custody. Warrants had been issued for the arrests of all six officers.” http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/Latest_updates_from_the_Freddie_Gray_case_in_Baltimore/161531110

  20. Clifford

    Quite sure that the outcome will vary depending on the color of your skin.

  21. Paul Kersey

    I think we’re just getting dumber as humans.

    Why is there only outrage when a black person is killed by a cop or someone non black? The leading killer of young blacks males is homicide, and most likely by the hands of another black male.

    While these activists and community leaders protest, black on black violence will continue unabated. How many elderly and sick are in serious need of that CVS that the protestors (terrorists!) looted and burned down?

    Before you let your white guilt response loose, understand this is a cultural and community problem. No amount of money, police reform, or even political reform, will change anything. The people in the community have to want to make things better.

    And that lady disiplining here teenage son is not a hero. She’s doing what millions of other families are doing. Raising their kids.

  22. tman

    Not trying to be an advocate for law enforcement nor am I condemning the black community but “unarmed” does not necessarily mean “harmless”. A large, agitated and motivated individual is capable of a lot physical damage, including death, to another individual.

  23. H Luce

    “The charges: Six officers are each facing multiple charges.

    — Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr.: Second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle, misconduct in office.
    — Officer William G. Porter: Involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office.
    — Lt. Brian W. Rice: Involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment.
    — Officer Edward M. Nero: Second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment.
    — Officer Garrett Miller: Second-degree assault, misconduct in office, false imprisonment.
    — Sgt. Alicia D. White: Manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office.
    by Kalani Gordon 10:22 AM ” http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/Latest_updates_from_the_Freddie_Gray_case_in_Baltimore/161532605

  24. darkcloud

    “It’s really sad that the GOP has become the party of racists because we have a black president.”- Andrew

    Wow. That’s a pretty limp dick comment. The Repubs have blown it but lets see how fantastic things are when the Dems are completely in control of a one party political system. There aren’t going to be enough earners to support the takers.
    Andrew, don’t be such a dick.

  25. H Luce

    Pattern Of Abuse: “But Gray is not the first person to come out of a Baltimore police wagon with serious injuries. Relatives of Dondi Johnson Sr., who was left a paraplegic after a 2005 police van ride, won a $7.4 million verdict against police officers. A year earlier, Jeffrey Alston was awarded $39 million by a jury after he became paralyzed from the neck down as the result of a van ride. Others have also received payouts after filing lawsuits. For some, such injuries have been inflicted by what is known as a “rough ride” — an “unsanctioned technique” in which police vans are driven to cause “injury or pain” to unbuckled, handcuffed detainees, former city police officer Charles J. Key testified as an expert five years ago in a lawsuit over Johnson’s subsequent death.

    As daily protests continue in the streets of Baltimore, authorities are trying to determine how Gray was injured, and their focus is on the 30-minute van ride that followed his arrest. “It’s clear what happened, happened inside the van,” Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said Monday at a news conference.” http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1

  26. H Luce

    And it was a false arrest in the first place. “Looking at a police officer” gives *NO PROBABLE CAUSE* to believe a crime has been committed. The last time I heard of such a thing was in the 1960s, when blacks were beaten and lynched for looking at white women. Those cops had absolutely no legal reason to do what they did, *they* were the thugs, *they* were the criminals. And the utterly transparent racism shown here by other posters is disgusting.

  27. gehry

    The people you see hurling bricks and looting stores are not the news-aware (or even politically-aware) kinds of people who are reacting to their own informed conclusions on a current event. They are typically completely uneducated people that sit around all day waiting for the law to be busy elsewhere. This Freddy Gray guy is just a rationalization for their abhorrent behavior. The truly upset and “invested” people engage in dialogue. The people taking full vantage of “the rest of us being upset” go out and do what’s happening in Baltimore.

    This ain’t a back or white thing. It’s a poverty and lack of education and “class” thing. I was in L.A. during the ’92 riots. The people doing most of the rampage and looting were more often of (ahem) “another minority population” that barely had any specific alliance or sympathy for Rodney King’s situation. The Reginald Denny (assaulted truck driver) stuff was not how most of those 4 days went down. It was like many in those neighborhoods just suddenly had an excuse to become lawless.

  28. darkcloud

    Democrats are the most closed minded people that I know of. Anybody who can actually “think” realizes that the Republicans AND Democrats are both disasters in action.

  29. darkcloud

    We were leaving a Dodgers game the first evening of the LA riots. Made a wrong turn and actually had our car descended upon by a bunch of those thugs. Two white guys with their wives and an infant. We were fortunate to escape.
    My wife had a coworker who went to the hospital after having a thug throw a brick through his side window at a red light. Hit him in the side of the head. He was lucky that he wasn’t killed. He’s Japanese so I can understand some thug mistaking him for one of those profiteering Korean store owner who exploits the African American community. NOT!

  30. Jim

    Several thoughts:
    Did any of you read ANYTHING about a white 54 year old shot bt Mansfield Ohio police this past week?
    Nope, I didn’t think so.
    First, he was white and second, he was doing something stupid (like pointing a gun at police).
    I didn’t see Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson racing there to condemn the police.
    Wonder why?
    Second, I have to wonder why anyone would want to be a police officer today?
    There really is no upside.
    Third, what would any of you say if the police, en masse, suddenly said “screw it, we aren’t chasing or arresting anyone”?
    We pay them to do a job that most (maybe all) of us don’t want to do.
    Don’t commit crimes and don’t run from the police and you likely won’t have problems.

  31. Jim

    You must be a defense attorney in real life.
    You seem to using all the points made in the nightly news tonight (and we know how reliable they are).

  32. darkcloud


    What no one expected is what Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake admitted in a press conference on Sunday: that she asked the Baltimore Police Department to “give those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

    Yeah baby. That’s some real leadership right there. Asking (telling) the police department to allow thugs to victimize others. Had the mayor of Baltimore been white and said that, can you imagine the shit-storm there’d have been. But the mayor is African American so it ain’t no thang.

  33. A Different Jim

    You are right about one thing. Some do make it out of these communities.

    From West Baltimore itself came Ta-Nehisi Coates, one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable contemporary writers about America’s complicated, long and troubled history of race relations between white people and African-Americans.

    Here’s his take:


    The article above will give you a clue why your (and Dan’s and Jim’s) views are so vile and insipid. So small and mean. Consider it an open door. If you want to walk through, you can.

    I suspect you won’t, though. You will find it easier to continue to lobotomize yourself with your tired, irritable mental gestures that seek to resemble thought. You will choose to continue to be the red skin suit guy of any political discussion. (Surely you know the pic: http://bikefail.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Skinsuit-Fail.jpg). Because that’s what I expect from people who learn of the summary execution of a man by police in the most brutal manner imaginable and side with the police.

  34. H Luce

    Practicing criminal defense law for 12 years, and I don’t watch TV, but I know about good policing and bad policing, and Baltimore is a cardinal example of bad policing.

  35. H Luce

    And the existence of bad police culture is dependent on a compliant DA who does not exercise his or her independent legal judgment but instead follows the judgment of the Chief of Police. That’s why I won both the first and second jury trials I’d ever done, fresh out of law school… not having done any trial work before except preparing appellate briefs as a law clerk. and the DA gets to cherry-pick his or her own cases.

  36. Neil Kopitsky

    They are not the target of the protestors. They are the targets of the criminals. Are you so blinded by your bigotry that you can’t see the difference?

  37. H Luce

    Forgot to mention – the second trial was that of an anarchist who was charged with battery upon the person of the Chief of Police of Lawrence, Kansas. The DA’s own evidence showed that my client, the anarchist, came nowhere close to the Chief, I let her know that, she wouldn’t drop the charges, so I said “OK, we’ll go to trial. You’ll lose.” She tried to get ten hours of absolutely irrelevant – although highly inflammatory and prejudicial – videotape and other stuff admitted into evidence. I objected, the judge sustained me, and the DA turned around and walked out of the courtroom, leaving the case to an Assistant DA and an intern. I got the detective who filed the reports to admit on the witness stand that he’d falsely charged my client at the behest of the DA, and from then on the prosecution case dissolved. The local media had long ago been loudly proclaiming my client’s guilt, but, too bad for them, the jury found differently, never voting for guilt, and my guy walked free. The District Attorney lost the election, two months after the trial. So take that, you police-boot-lickers!

  38. Aaron Swanson

    Hello Hector, I’m happy to hear that you moved away from wherever it was that was “60% black” so that you’d have more opportunities in life in general. One question for you, What is the white to black population ratio where you currently live? I’m guessing that it’s closer to 85/15 than it is to your previous 40/60. I’m asking this because you say that “whitey (is not) unfairly targeting them”. However, your supplied data of population ratio does not support your claim that “whitey (is not) unfairly targeting them”. Do you honestly think that those that sell drugs, or live the ‘thug live’ want to live that life, constantly looking behind your back in fear of being arrested or worse, murdered for something petty as $10. I don’t think so. The majority that live that life do so out of necessity. You basically said that they should get a job, well my friend, it’s kinda hard to get a job when nobody hires you or when there are no jobs in a 60% black community. Now to your claim of “I’m not racist” the only data you provided to back-up your claim is that your Hispanic. So are you saying that because you are a minority you get a ‘get out of jail free card’ in matters concerning racism? Or are you saying that only whites (the majority) can be racist towards the minority? Well, either way doesn’t support your claim of “whitey (is not) unfairly targeting them”. So perhaps you’d like to try again? Well anyway I’ll leave you with this – http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/02/23/john-legend-is-right-prisons-are-disproportionately-black-the-worst-states-are-some-of-the-whitest/
    Now that IS supporting data to disprove your claim. And for what it’s worth, I lived in Iowa all my life, which just so happens to be at the top of the unbalanced list.
    Have a good day, Hector.

  39. Hector

    Aaron, I grew up along side these. Playing on the playground and eating lunch next to them. They didn’t sell drugs or get in gangs out of “necessity”! They thought being a thug was “cool”. I guess if what you need is bigger wheels, louder music and more gold chains then yes, selling drugs was a necessity. Pretty sure the money wasn’t going towards helping their parents. As for jobs in that town, every job that was available to me was available to them! It’s never going to change for black communities and it’s not white America’s fault. No matter what your roots/race, the opportunity for education is the same. Well, that’s not necessarily true. Black people actually have more sources for funding! The past is history. It’s time to quit making excuses for them and for them to stop making excuses for themselves.

    I would like to see all of the Lilly white black sympathizers go and work a month as a police officer in a predominantly black area. It might open your eyes a little to “reality”.

  40. Clifford Allen

    I’m really surprised that the bulk of comments here seem to deny that racism exists on a palpable level in this country, and that one significant way it shows up is in how people of color, mostly in lower economic strata, are treated by law enforcement.

  41. Clifford Allen

    By which I mean the fact that the police can pick someone up under false pretenses, beat and ultimately kill them, and a mistreated community naturally is up in arms after decades of this stuff, and of course the victims of structural abuse get called “thugs” as the rage and desperation play out.

  42. H Luce

    When I was a post-doc at the University of Cincinnati, I lived for a year in Over the Rhine, a neighborhood where the Cincinnati PD had been effectively run off. hey’d come in in the daytime and shake down local businesses for bribes in exchange for not shutting them down for “code violations”, but after sunset they were out of there. The lion’s share of the money “targeted” for poor blacks went to graft. After sunset, the policing was done by the Crips, and there was *no* street crime. Pretty often I’d walk home down Ravine Street (where Charlie Manson and Glenn Danzig grew up – it was a tough neighborhood) at 2 or 3 in the morning, without incident. Coming home from the grocery store – I didn’t own a car – I’d take a “bootleg cab” – an unlicensed cab, the private car of a local, running a business on the side. Other people ran other kinds of unlicensed businesses, and if the cops found out, there’d be shakedowns. But they ran those businesses unlicensed because there was either no way they could afford the license, or even if they could, they weren’t going to be given one from the city, which gave out monopolies to political buddies. As a result, Yellow Cab ran trashed-out police cars reeking of vomit and piss, at sky-high rates; the bootlegs were a fraction of the cost, were immaculately kept, had working air-conditioning and heating, and the drivers would load your groceries into the trunk and then bring them into the apartment. The people there were pretty conservative, their values were the same as people in other middle or working class areas, they wanted good schools for their kids, good places to go – the same expectations as white people have. So the picture you’re painting, Hector, is wrong, wrong, wrong.

  43. Jim

    You are aware that racism is a two way street, right?
    If you are not aware, your statement means very little.

  44. Steve

    Black lives matter, but only when that life is effected by a white cop. The hypocrisy in this country is mind numbing.


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