I’m not sure why these guys that are “caught” doping sometime during the last 20 years in the sport of cycling aren’t intelligent enough to realize that all the excuses have been used up and they should either just not open their mouths and speak at all or just tell the truth. It’s pretty simple.
This applies to Stuart O’Grady’s latest confession. Stuart had a problem when his name came up on the French senate’s doping probe list. He obviously must of gotten a tip that this was going to occur because he seemed to make a coincidental decision to retire right after the finish of the Tour, which was exactly when the finding from the French Senate were going to be released. He tied George Hincapie for riding his 17th Tour this year. Yeah for that.
Anyway, I guess he really wanted that record badly because he lied his way into the position to get to race another 1/2 season. Back in December, when his team director Matt White had his issues with doping, Stuart made a statement about never having been exposed to doping in the sport. Never, ever. Wow.
But, now that his pee from 1998 was tested, today he admitted that he did try EPO once. And only once, alone, but it just happened to be before the 1998 Tour, where the frozen samples that were tested were collected. Man, what bad luck for him. The one time that he decided to experiment with doping, he had to pee into a cup. A cup they stored for a long time and then retested it.
He did clarify that he really wasn’t cheating. “It wasn’t systematic doping, I wasn’t trying to deceive people, I was basically trying to survive in what was a very grey area.” He was just “trying to survive”? Wow. He did win a stage and wore the yellow jersey that very year. I think someone needs to explain to Stuart what the word survive means in a 3 week stage race. The guys just trying to survive don’t get to go up on the podium, shake hands with Bernard Hinault and then put on a yellow jersey.
His team Orica-GreenEdge has a pretty strict doping policy. Strict enough that it is pretty assured that Stuart wouldn’t have been riding the Tour this year if he wouldn’t have lied back in December, and probably dozens of other times also.
Niki Vance, a former WADA director and hired by Orica GreenEdge to review the team’s anti-doping procedures and policies admitted that Stuart lied to her, but she believes him now.
From Cyclingnews.com – Vance explained to Cyclingnews on Thursday. Vance also warned that caution should be used when it came to the way O’Grady is dealt with by both the cycling community and the media. Vance admits that what is now known about O’Grady is not ideal for her report, but says that the four-time Tour de France stage winner should be taken at face-value when he says that 1998 was an isolated incident.
“I think we’ve got to be careful with the sort of language that we use,” she explained. “While there’s no doubt that I asked questions of Stuart O’Grady and he told me he didn’t use drugs, I acknowledge that I had a gut feeling, and this is not reflective of Stuart O’Grady at all, that people weren’t necessarily telling me the truth. Those riders that were racing at that time had to be exceptional not to be using the drugs.
It seems like it might of paid off for him. He got to go back up on that podium when his team won the team time trial at the Tour this year. I wonder if he feels so much better getting up there drug free? It probably didn’t feel that good because he has won so many races “clean”. Like the Olympic games and Paris-Roubaix and a ton of other TTT’s at Grand Tours.
I’m so glad that Stuart saw how bad a boy he was back in 1998 and decided to race clean for the next 15 years. I think he has a silver and a couple bronze medals from the Olympic Games also. He rode 6 Olympics. He now can hold his head high and not give back his Olympic Gold medal or his cobble from Paris-Roubaix. It goes to show you when you make a good decision after a bad one, things do get better.
The official Orica-GreenEdge statement by Team General Manager Shayne Bannan –
“The team would also like to express its support in Stuart as a person and as an advocate for a clean sport. Like the majority of the riders in his generation, he was also exposed to the issues and wrongdoings of the sport and made some wrong choices in that environment.
“We would like to underline that in all of our interactions with Stuart, he has always been extremely clear about the right path for the sport and we believe that certain mistakes in the past shouldn’t be allowed to tarnish his entire career and his integrity as a person.
It’s too bad that the Australian Olympic Committee didn’t look past Stuey’s one “out of competition” use of EPO and have chosen to ask him to o resign from his position on the Athletes’ Commission.
I bet he thinks this is an injustice and harsh punishment for that one slip.
Seriously, it is sort of embarrassing what these guys will do to keep “their” Olympic medals and important results. Levi and Bobby Julich kept their Olympic medals, so why shouldn’t Stuey try to keep his? Somehow it must be easy for them to justify that they really weren’t doing anything wrong and deserve the accolades and rewards from the competitions they won. I wonder if they think that Lance should have kept his Tour titles? That would be an interesting question to ask these guys.
Anyway, this is just another example of a bike rider who has lost way too many brain cells to make a very good decision about how to deal with his past. It was about the same as Jalebert saying he didn’t know if he doped when his name came up last month from the same investigation.
These two guys and their excuses make professional cyclists look stupider than they really are. Or maybe they think that the cycling public and media are just gullible. Either way, the rest of the riders that are going to be caught up in all this stuff, eventually, should use these two examples of how not to react to “getting caught”. It doesn’t sit very well. I bet you a million bucks Kevin Livingston doesn’t babble like this.
Stuey winning Paris-Roubaix clean back n 2007.
And proudly showing his Olympic Gold medal.
How the sport (sic) takes care of its own atmo –
I wonder if I am the only one that thinks it is strange that Kevin set up shop in Lance’s bike shop?
Right on the money!
Has to do with the fact that nobody knows anymore what it means to have fun. Look how sad Michael looks at his son’s baptism.
P.S. I think Froome looked authentically happy. Sagan likes to have fun. Kittel has the most power naturally etc.. I think the new generation will be alright…..”End of the Godfather Days”…
I doubt he has ever raced pro with a fully clean body.
I really believe the “most doped” era of pro cycling is 1995-present.
Sadly, it’s here to stay.
Sounds like he’s a candidate for a call-up at the Chrusher
Jackie Duran, though maintaining the “That was then, this is now” party line, seems to get his confession pretty right. What do you think, Steve?:
“You have to take responsibility for your own actions. I have always said that for many years whether it was to young riders, journalists or my employers.
Anyway, I don’t think anybody is fooled by the revelations that most of the peloton doped in 1998. The press, supporters, spectators and racers know the difference between current and traditional practices regarding EPO.
But of course, I can understand why the general public may be confused between what happened in 1998 and what is happening now.
The next generation must not pay the price for our crap. Today I am not thinking of myself, but of them. My career is in the past.
Now I’m thinking of the kid that could be a breakout star during the Tour who has to listen to people say: “You’re drugged up like all the others.”
I think of somebody like Thibaut Pinot, who finished 10th in the Tour at age 22, or a Romain Bardet who finished 15th at the same age.
I don’t want these cyclists to be discredited just because everyone from my generation was full of bullshit.
Our sport is much cleaner now, I want people to understand that.
At the time we the riders could hear the alarm bells sounding. We all agreed that our samples could be retained for a time when there was enhanced research regarding the detection of EPO.
In the late ’90s the peloton was a shooting gallery. Everybody was doping and nobody knew how to get out.
Why do you dope? When you want to live your passion but despite working like a madman you are streets behind the competition when clean you analyse the situation. You want to live your passion, you want to succeed in the Tour de France, so you take the plunge.
I hope that the naming of all of us who doped in 1998 brings through new doping reforms.
Otherwise these statements will have no effect other than to discredit our sport.”
Why is Usain Bolt so fast on the the track, special recipe!!!!!!
http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/fotos/usain-bolt-in-bildern-slideshow/alle-sportarten-usain-bolt-f1-boliden-photo-115659328.html
Why should cyclists come clean? I thought for a time that all cyclists should just tell the truth about the doping era so that we can move forward. But when they are vilified, called liars & stripped of tour titles I am no longer so certain. Yes they cheated…Truth and reconciliation is needed; not truth and persecution.
I doubt we will ever hear from Kevin Livingston. He didn’t say anything when the Lance bomb imploded.
That’s why Kevin is locked in the basement of Mellow Johnny’s Bike Shop.
Truth and prosecution.
Jeroen Blijlevens got fired from Belkin over this. This being pee in a cup from 15 years ago. How far back in time is too far? Do we go all the way and strip Eddy Merckx from results and “fire” him from his current job (He’s retired now but you get the idea).
His contempt for us and the truth are equal in his statement, but what will he say when the next sample tests positive?
Because there is always another sample to be tested.
this idiot isnt telling the truth… hahahahaha!! saying he only took drugs in 1998.. lol!! thats when he got caught. bet a million he was on drugs his whole career, like everyone else.. pro cyclists ever tell the truth??
Agreed. he was also young, so you don’t need that shit. you need it when you get older. The whole circus is a brainwashing campaign, which also takes place in politics, business, religion etc…people are brainwashed and lost. For those who can read german, here is the same issue with Zabel, Ullrich and co;
http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/radsport-dhont-zabel-gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fter-schauspieler-allen-100957423.html
It’s time for people to become real again: Drink Beer, wine , laugh appreciate women and vice versa for the Ladies..let the good times roll, have fun…when competing, celebrate together from the 1st to the last etc…..
Mit freundlichen Gruessen Bernd Faust “Life is to short to drink cheap beer”
Well Stuey , happy with all the applause you are getting for your showing how easy it is to fool the punters ?
As i have pointed out in my Blogs , Sporting Fraud is what you indulged in then , but more to the point you continued to compound that mistake since ! Making Niki Vance look like a rank amateur and your Team mates in NICE look like they were part of your dog & pony show in recent times , demonstrates that you had a ” take no prisoners ” attitude to your career .
WHY would anyone believe your statements of this week , particularly after selling the Orica Team down river ?
Take a look at : http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/office-of-the-governor-general-of-australia-create-the-means-for-a-sports-amnesty-in-australia#invite
Think about PUBLICALLY supporting something like this , in order to remove the Taint/Stain that you have shovelled on every OTHER AUSSIE ATHLETE !